Whispers Forum

The “intolerance” shouting brigades are active once again in view of the forthcoming election 2019. What are they agitating against? What is it that they are carrying out their campaign? Is it for the Fundamental Right to Loot the national assets? Is it for a Fundamental Right to Conversion? Is it for the Right to Attack Indian Culture? Is it for spreading hatred against the Hindus? Do they want to subjugate the Hindus once again? Do they want to cleanse India of the Hindus? Do they have some kind of a Divine Right to spread hatred in India against the Hindus, whom they try to portray as “intolerant”? How intense their hatred can be, is easy to be gauged by their hate campaign against the Prime Minister of India Shri Narendra Modi and the American President Donald Trump. From the moment Trump decided to go for the Helsinki summit, the community of hate–mongers went into over-drive. They feared, and rightly so, that their model of hate campaigns for political game will come under serious threat from Trump’s openness. Trump has been under severe attack from more than one American political, strategy and trade group for being friendly with Russia, especially President Putin. These hate mongering campaigners want to perpetuate the Cold War anti-Russia (USSR then) mind-set. They created then a Devil in the USSR. They want to continue it against Russia. Why does America need to continue with the perception of imminent war with Russia? What does it lose if Russia and America become friends? Why should it impose on the world community the cost of wars like the one in Iraq or Syria? The Americans need to change their attitude from intolerance to tolerance so that peace is established everywhere. They should desist from carrying out hate campaigns against other peoples in the name of “intolerance”. They sound queer to blame others for intolerance when they exhibit terrible intolerance to hit Donald Trump below the belt for showing warm friendliness towards an “enemy” portrayed as the Devil incarnate by its Intelligence establishment (with less intelligence than the ISI of Pakistan). They would do well to stop fuelling trouble in India in the name of intolerance.
M L Gupta

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It is high time, there is a public revolt against the Ministers and the IAS who are nothing less than parasites in the system Poverty, Inequality, Injustice and an undemocratic culture is perpetuated by the duo-they work in tandem! You just have to see the way the young Asst Secretaries conduct themselves-never would they introduce themselves or write a letter without the suffix IAS-what is the secret...
Amrita Kapoor
Why empanelment of 1996 Batch of IAAS delayed ?
Thank you for the timely news on Whispers about the happenings in the bureaucracy. I have a question, if you could help: Why is the empanelment of 1996 Batch of IAAS delayed beyond 2 yrs. Would be grateful if this could be focussed on. Warm Wishes
Anita
Travesty of RTI Act
The section 4 has been in place and perhaps none of the organisations / public authorities have ever followed it. It is a travesty of the RTI Act, that even after 13 years, the basic provisions remain to be implemented. It is sheer lack of political will.
Salim
Gift to all bureaucrats
This government has given the biggest gift to all bureaucrats by amending the Prevention of corruption Act. The various provisions introduced while appearing to be reasonable, in effect and practically, ensure that no government servant even at the lowest level can ever be prosecuted.
A K Singh

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I fully agree that today,s Bureaucrats particularly IAS and IPS officers are reluctant to oppose/disagree with illegal/arbitrary orders of Political bosses. All of them want to be a YES MAN/WOMAN so that they get lucrative posts while in service and later get appointed as Consultant/member of some commission or committee etc. after retirement !!!!.
Things can improve only when All Bureaucrats join hands (forgetting their self interest) and decide not to obey illegal/arbitrary orders of Political bosses and take strong action against local political workers who threatens the public servants and disrupt the administrative functioning.
S. Gopal
There is now again the usual hype being created that chargesheeting officers for blatantly illegal actions, will discourage them from taking decisions. This is a bogey from those who conspire with some politicians, help them in taking illegal decisions, and reap various types of benefits. No one can take action against honest officers. I have been taking decisions honestly while in service, which are correct and legal, sometimes offending not only politicians but senior officers also . Of course one is shunted out to insignificant positions, so that others can do their bidding. This is a price one should be ready to pay for honesty. If you want plum posts and compromise for it, then you should blame no one but yourself if you are caught , for that is a risk you have taken , howsover unlikely it may seem at that time. Same with the bankers and others. So crying wolf is of little help !
S Chatterjee
CVC action in case of misuse of office must
If CVC takes action in only one of the case of misuse of office, then you will automatically see how government officials/legislatures surrender all their ill gotten perks & facilities. The officials of the CAG should also get more scrupulous while auditing the accounts of offices. They should not fear their superiors. Very soon I will retire and propose to file an a PIL, in which I will also make the CVC and CAG as parties.
BBS

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I agree with Laxmi, civil servants, per force, have to sail with the political system, failing which they are branded as duds.
Harish Kumar
All is not well in Central Economic Intelligence Bureau
Like Enforcement Directorate, all is not well in Central Economic Intelligence Bureau these days as one ADG and one Under Secy rank Officer are said to be under scanner for suspicious and doubtful activities . After Nirav Modi and Punjab National Bank financial loan scam, all of a sudden CEIB role has become very important. It is understood through various sources that both these Officers were under surveillance by PMO for the last several months
Karan

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Dipali Rastogi's comment on IAS officer's reflects her deficiency in understanding the emotions, sentiments and survival instinct of humanity as a whole.These comments hold good in any sector of the society be it the entire civil services, multi nationals or for that matter for any body who reports to some body. Singling out only IAS officers is the lacuna in her statement. But again labelling everybody in that category is also not appropriate. Even among IAS officers, she is writing about, there are good many numbers of them who are not bothered about plum postings etc but do and say what is right in dealing with any issues without bothering to please Political masters. Examples of that can be seen in names like T N seshan for IAS and Sridharan for Railways. But there are lot more such officers in service in every dept who anchor the bureaucracy and give their best without bothering about themselves. The lot she is talking about is valueless, principle less people who are there everywhere and they are the bane of the society.
Ramjays
Reminiscent of debate between Kalidas and Vidyotma
The clarification of Rahul debate in Parliament by Congress spokesman remind me of intellectual debate between Kalidas and his would be wife Vidyotma when crook courtesan interpreted stupid gestures of Kalidas as great intellectual arguments. By this analogy, we are going to see the making of a new Kalidas.
Mitra
Rise above silly sentiments
It was perhaps the most dangerous security breach for the Prime Minister to be touched in the Lok Sabha in such a blatant disregard for SOP for the security of the prime minister. What if it was a recce or a dry run of the Hindu Talibans abusing the privilege of the parliament member? What if the smearing of the poison on the cheeks of Kim’s half-brother at the airport is re-enacted in parliament? What if the real Hindu Talibans trained in or by Pakistan in fist fight harm the PM? Those watching politics in the country are aware how the communists of the Naxalite kind deal with their opponents? Was it the anarchist strategy to drag the Prime Minister by the collar? I recall some such thing was done to B.D. Jatti Sahab and poor Kesri even young entrants to politics remember so well. But the style of the anarchists was demonstrated by none other than a dismissed minister of Delhi who spoke in the camera that he would catch his chief by the neck……..(garden pakad kar….). What would have happened had some such anarchy been enacted in parliament? Even a human bomb is no impossibility. With the kind of hatred demonstrated by the opposition, the campaign run by foreign vested interests who keep supplying verbal missiles like Hindu Terror, Hindu Pakistan, Hindu Taliban etc. and more than one Cambridge Analytica, this was a great breach of the prime minister’s security. Has the security establishment got the prime minister’s clothes examined by team of forensic experts for deadly anthrax or other chemical couched in body spray? If not, why not? The threat to the life of Narendra Modi, Prime Minister of India is real and he can be harmed in this manner. Unravel the design of the enemy before they succeed.
M L Gupta

“Congress’s Fiasco”
Rahul's hugging the PM after his no-confidence motion speech, was histrionic, frivolous. Even, PM Modi was stunned by his childish behaviour. His outburst was without substance. His acting / rhetorics were uninspiring and de-motivating. It jolted the conscience of a common man. Worse, goaded by his cheer leaders and like-minded friend Scindia, he was misled to believe that he made a good speech. In excitement, he went on to hug PM Modi and trivialized the level of debate.
Without pre-checking facts , Rahul merely succeeded in committing blunders. His reference to parleys with French President ( claimed by him but without proofs) about secrecy clause in Rafael deal was thoughtless, immature and irresponsible. The ruling political dispensation is justified in moving a privilege motion against Congress's stupid stormy petrel. Surely, not a Congress's Presidential material, let alone, PM material. Unfit even to be a stand-up comedian.
A K Saxena ( A former civil servant)
Senior scientists also be empanelled as JS & AS
Senior scientists working in various Ministries/Departments/Attached Offices should also be empanelled as Joint Secretary and Addl Secretary atleast in technical departments.
Ajai

Copies of records relating to receipt & disposal of RTI applications for a particular period were sought. The Appellant claimed that as the information is in the nature of suo motu disclosure, the provisions of Section 7(9) cannot be invoked. The respondent agreed in principle to so motu disclose the sought for information viz. status of RTI application/first appeal received in their office, first appellate authority order etc. on their website. However, he sought for some time to arrange adequate training to all the concerned officers of Air India Ltd. The CIC allowed 4 months time to impart required training to the employees & for updating the software. The Air India was directed to put the information in public domain within 4 months from the date of receipt of this order.
Comments
Information relating to disposal of RTI application is liable to be disclosed on the website of the public authority in compliance with Section 4(1)(b) of the RTI Act read with DoPT circular dated 15.04.2013 vide O.M. No. 1/6/2011-IR.
Citation: : Mr. R.K. Jain v. Air India Limited in Complaint No. CIC/AIRIN/C/2016/299172, Dated of Decision: 02.01.2018
Dr. Anuradha Verma (dranuradhaverma@yahoo.co.in) is the co-author of the books: RIGHT TO INFORMATION – LAW AND PRACTICand PIO’s guide to RTI. Her other articles can be read at the website of RTI Foundation of India at - http://www.rtifoundationofindia.com/

DEBATE
Broadly, view of the people & Media is that most of the Bureaucrats are back bending to please/grease their political bosses for petty ends/desires.
Kishore Dudani
CVC also not interested !
Even CVC is also not interested to implement the findings of corruption cases elicited under the RTI Act. They simply forward the information relating to corruption to the concerned CVO of the Government Department for necessary action and advise the applicant for further communication in the matter, they may approach the concerned CVO. In the Government departments these days an executing official is given the additional charge of the CVO. It is quite possible that he may be the effected party. Why will he pay credence to such types of complaint. The fact that CVC has washed its hand off not further action will be taken in the matter and irregularity will continue to thrive.
BBS

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What Dipali Rastogi wrote (in The Hindu) earlier this month about IAS officers wasn't news; it was her coming forward which was news"
Dipali Rastogi, a serving IAS officer borne on the Madhya Pradesh cadre, recently wrote in The Hindu, under the heading "The philosophy of power and prestige", that the "The best IAS officer is one that has no opinion of his own, or even if he does, keeps it to himself. As the years go by and the lines between bureaucracy and politics, between right and wrong, between truth and lies become fainter and fainter, an IAS officer will have lost all original thought."
Continuing further, Ms. Rastogi has noted that since the IAS officer listens to nobody except himself, his knowledge becomes superfluous and useless and the figures that he pops out are "all fudged" to meet the expectations of the political masters.
With this premise, Ms. Rastogi has gone on to underscore that the realization has dawned on the political masters that they were being taken for a ride and this has led to the decision at the Government of India level to give lateral entry at the JS level to experts (from the corporate sector), who can show spine and deliver.
When asked to react to the piece by Ms. Rastogi, an ex-bureaucrat who chose to quit the IAS a few years ago, said he always held exactly the same views as Ms. Dipali and was rather forthright about them but people always thought that he was mouthing anti-establishment views because he had quit the service.
The former IAS officer revealed that most bureaucrats in different WhatsApp forums were slamming Ms. Rastogi for her views. These "chamcha bureaucrats" have ruined the governance of this country, was his parting shot.
Lalit Shastri
No govt wants to implement RTI Act !
No government ever wants to implement the RTI Act otherwise, the section 4 should have been implemented in the last 13 years. This order is not likely to be implemented and the administration would cite the practical difficulties in implementing it.
Sumeet

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The IAS from MP cadre who voiced that there are several bureaucrats who serve the politicians for their selfish needs is absolutely true. This has been happening since decades without a sign of it being stopped. Their education means nothing and they become shameless during their service so much that they stoop to any level to please their political masters. In Maharashtra, there are many such officers who have been rewarded with post retirement postings which ultimately costs the exchequer. Shameless people.
Ashok K Menon, Mumbai
Interference unwarranted
Interference by DM is unwarranted. It is not in the spirit of the Apex Court judgement which prescribes internal autonomy to the police.
Somesh Goyal
Rita Teotia is ideal person
Ms Rita Teotia is the ideal candidate. She is the chosen Commerce Secretary. Any IAS officer of Gujarat cadre would be able to handle CCI effectively.
V Kumar