Whispers Forum — 22 Jun 2018
DEBATE (1)
Arup Patnaik, former Mumbai Police Commissioner has joined the BJD in Odisha. He is 1979 batch IPS officer.
P K Joshi
Kashmir coalition, a failed experiment
Let no one play the blame game. When a politico indulges in blame game, it is when they or theirs, are to blame.
BJP ,as major coalition partner, now accuses PDP after 3 years of " Divya Gyaan " of latter’s non-cooperation and anti-nationalism. No point playing the victim’s card. Why did the BJP not leave the coalition two years back ? Was it greed for power ?
Was the pullout a political necessity to escape public criticism ?
The centre should own the joint responsibility of mishandling the issue by following a faulty J&K policy.
Who prevented the BJP from opposing the mass release of stone pelters from the prisons ?
How could PDP tie hands of Indian army, as some leaders seem to claim?
Why did the Centre enforce unilateral ceasefire during Ramzan? What use was the goodwill gesture by India?
It was no time for experiment.
Adhocism dominated major part of coalition era.
Some nincompoop leaders try to justify imposition of Governor’s rule in J&K stating that the Indian army did not have a free hand.
PMO and MHA mandarins will have much to explain.
While confidence is a virtue, over-confidence is evil.
All said and done, give our army a free hand .
Let them give the terrorists and stone pelters a bloody nose and bleed Pakistan army/ISI through a thousand cuts.
The country stands solidly behind the Indian army
A K Saxena (A former civil servant)
Lateral Entry
It is argued against Lateral Entry at Joint Secretary Level by GoI that IAS offers a vast reservoir of knowledge about the country and first-hand experience of the problems faced by public and understand requirement as to how to encourage industrial environment, how to attract investment in health, education, agriculture, infrastructure etc. It is IAS who knows how to take policy decisions in the interest of country at cutting edge level of Joint Secretary. They consider themselves as “Mr Know All” and treat any non-IAS, be in Govt or private, with a strong sense of contempt. If the IAS were so great, by now all the problems in our country would have been solved. Almost all ministries and departments have been headed by an IAS officer both at the centre as well as in states for last 70 years. However, what have we achieved, how many problems have been actually solved, is for any one to see. The fact is IAS has only tried to maintain and extend their hegemony over entire administration, without any accountability. They have systematically pushed all other services to inferior levels by presenting them as good-for-nothing. All successes are credited to IAS head and all failures are imputed to the subordinate bureaucracy or the respective departmental officers, who are not allowed the freedom to function to sort out the problems. It is a chance that out of 4-5 Lac appearing for Civil Services the lucky 150 get a few marks more. Can a successful candidate claim to get same success level if he takes exam again? Can it be said that all others who could not get more marks are dumb. Many of them make it in second or third attempt. Many highly talented, who were not so lucky to get through, take up other assignments, including in private sector and achieve heights that an IAS can’t even dream of. The facts is talent can’t be linked merely to success in Civil Services exam. Talent is available everywhere in the society. The Govt has taken a very right step to tap pool of talent wherever available, including private sector, for policy level decisions. As for the allegation regarding ‘toeing the line’ it is well known that present bureaucracy doesn’t have spine in fear of loosing cushy job (how many of them can find proper job outside?). The one coming from private will have the courage to chuck the contract job if pushed to take a decision not in the interest of task at hand. Therefore, Lateral Entry is a welcome step by Govt of India.
R K Gupta
Only one Challenge to Minister of Railways: Punctuality of the Trains
Most of the people who are travelling in trains are suffering due to one or other reasons because of late running of the trains : Students are missing interview dates, examinations, medical tests, people are missing court dates, important meetings, ceremonies, patients are missing doctor's appointment, admission in the hospitals, medical treatment etc. etc. There as many reasons as many people travelling in the trains. Railways have many great plans and targets like doubling the revenue, running of bullet trains, creation of jobs and so forth. Many great claims are also being made. Keeping all the things in line, can Minister of Railways ensure the trains run in time and save the people from their sufferings. It will be a great service to the people and as well as to the Nation. It does not require rocket science technology. This challenge can be met simply by fixing the responsibility and accountability in case of late running of trains. CRIS has all capability to develop small software for this. It requires parameters like Train name and numbers, starting time, destination time, delayed time ( late less than 1 hour, late between 2-3 hours, 3-4 hours, 4-5 hours, 5-6 hours, more than 6 hours), reasons for late running, responsible person/persons, action taken etc. and based on these data daily reports can be generated for the perusal of the Minister. Now Minister of railways can see what is the performance of trains in terms of timing and late running. Only one challenge is to be met no more i.e. no late running of trains. In Europe, US, Canada etc. trains are maintaining timing within 1 minute. Can we expect this thing in India. Let us show good results in timing of running the train. Railway staff is well paid and rise upto Principal Secretary level. They get bonus not less two months but not able to maintain the timings. Where is the gap? We think Minister of Railways will meet the challenge and see the trains are running in time to prove it. All the best Sir.
Naveen
Arup Patnaik, former Mumbai Police Commissioner has joined the BJD in Odisha. He is 1979 batch IPS officer.
P K Joshi
Kashmir coalition, a failed experiment
Let no one play the blame game. When a politico indulges in blame game, it is when they or theirs, are to blame.
BJP ,as major coalition partner, now accuses PDP after 3 years of " Divya Gyaan " of latter’s non-cooperation and anti-nationalism. No point playing the victim’s card. Why did the BJP not leave the coalition two years back ? Was it greed for power ?
Was the pullout a political necessity to escape public criticism ?
The centre should own the joint responsibility of mishandling the issue by following a faulty J&K policy.
Who prevented the BJP from opposing the mass release of stone pelters from the prisons ?
How could PDP tie hands of Indian army, as some leaders seem to claim?
Why did the Centre enforce unilateral ceasefire during Ramzan? What use was the goodwill gesture by India?
It was no time for experiment.
Adhocism dominated major part of coalition era.
Some nincompoop leaders try to justify imposition of Governor’s rule in J&K stating that the Indian army did not have a free hand.
PMO and MHA mandarins will have much to explain.
While confidence is a virtue, over-confidence is evil.
All said and done, give our army a free hand .
Let them give the terrorists and stone pelters a bloody nose and bleed Pakistan army/ISI through a thousand cuts.
The country stands solidly behind the Indian army
A K Saxena (A former civil servant)
Lateral Entry
It is argued against Lateral Entry at Joint Secretary Level by GoI that IAS offers a vast reservoir of knowledge about the country and first-hand experience of the problems faced by public and understand requirement as to how to encourage industrial environment, how to attract investment in health, education, agriculture, infrastructure etc. It is IAS who knows how to take policy decisions in the interest of country at cutting edge level of Joint Secretary. They consider themselves as “Mr Know All” and treat any non-IAS, be in Govt or private, with a strong sense of contempt. If the IAS were so great, by now all the problems in our country would have been solved. Almost all ministries and departments have been headed by an IAS officer both at the centre as well as in states for last 70 years. However, what have we achieved, how many problems have been actually solved, is for any one to see. The fact is IAS has only tried to maintain and extend their hegemony over entire administration, without any accountability. They have systematically pushed all other services to inferior levels by presenting them as good-for-nothing. All successes are credited to IAS head and all failures are imputed to the subordinate bureaucracy or the respective departmental officers, who are not allowed the freedom to function to sort out the problems. It is a chance that out of 4-5 Lac appearing for Civil Services the lucky 150 get a few marks more. Can a successful candidate claim to get same success level if he takes exam again? Can it be said that all others who could not get more marks are dumb. Many of them make it in second or third attempt. Many highly talented, who were not so lucky to get through, take up other assignments, including in private sector and achieve heights that an IAS can’t even dream of. The facts is talent can’t be linked merely to success in Civil Services exam. Talent is available everywhere in the society. The Govt has taken a very right step to tap pool of talent wherever available, including private sector, for policy level decisions. As for the allegation regarding ‘toeing the line’ it is well known that present bureaucracy doesn’t have spine in fear of loosing cushy job (how many of them can find proper job outside?). The one coming from private will have the courage to chuck the contract job if pushed to take a decision not in the interest of task at hand. Therefore, Lateral Entry is a welcome step by Govt of India.
R K Gupta
Only one Challenge to Minister of Railways: Punctuality of the Trains
Most of the people who are travelling in trains are suffering due to one or other reasons because of late running of the trains : Students are missing interview dates, examinations, medical tests, people are missing court dates, important meetings, ceremonies, patients are missing doctor's appointment, admission in the hospitals, medical treatment etc. etc. There as many reasons as many people travelling in the trains. Railways have many great plans and targets like doubling the revenue, running of bullet trains, creation of jobs and so forth. Many great claims are also being made. Keeping all the things in line, can Minister of Railways ensure the trains run in time and save the people from their sufferings. It will be a great service to the people and as well as to the Nation. It does not require rocket science technology. This challenge can be met simply by fixing the responsibility and accountability in case of late running of trains. CRIS has all capability to develop small software for this. It requires parameters like Train name and numbers, starting time, destination time, delayed time ( late less than 1 hour, late between 2-3 hours, 3-4 hours, 4-5 hours, 5-6 hours, more than 6 hours), reasons for late running, responsible person/persons, action taken etc. and based on these data daily reports can be generated for the perusal of the Minister. Now Minister of railways can see what is the performance of trains in terms of timing and late running. Only one challenge is to be met no more i.e. no late running of trains. In Europe, US, Canada etc. trains are maintaining timing within 1 minute. Can we expect this thing in India. Let us show good results in timing of running the train. Railway staff is well paid and rise upto Principal Secretary level. They get bonus not less two months but not able to maintain the timings. Where is the gap? We think Minister of Railways will meet the challenge and see the trains are running in time to prove it. All the best Sir.
Naveen